EISNN don't take this the wrong way but unions and staff in Aer Lingus need to get real and understand that some of the pensions will be lost and that's just fact and all you need to do is look at other companies who's employees lost some of their pensions. A prefect example is Waterford Crystal workers, when the court case finished the Government will not be paying 100% of the pensions that have being lost but only a certain amount and the same will happen in EI weather staff or unions like it or not.