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Old 23rd Feb 2003, 23:11
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spekesoftly
 
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I suggest there may be some misunderstanding of terminology here. I would not expect a pilot to cross a red stop bar, even after a (correctly phrased!) conditional line up clearance, until the stop bar has been extinguished. However, if stop bars are not in use, then pilots positioned behind a preceding departure should use their own judgement when to cross the holding point, specifically in compliance with "After the departing XXX, line up and wait".
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