Yes Autofly, I was talking about GAPAN. I recently read a letter in flight from some one who suggested it for anybody thinking of going career. They pointed out that it indicated to the student if they have what it take , such as what Nickm said in the next reply. It sounds like something I should consider doing, as I'm just starting on the ppl, and have great intentions of going the distance but would not like to waste money if I really don't have what it takes. However, should I fail the aptitude test, it would be a great moral blow, and maybe take the enthusiasm out of my goal. So I might continue with the training regardless. Do either of you chaps know is a high pass helps on a cv?