That's true 'Trent' as mentioned in my above post & in some ways blame could be at them (the Capt in particular)but on the day we are ALL responsible for our own actions whether it be ordering a sandwich or flying a plane.
Although you could have the best well trained pilot in the seat & still lose the plane, remember humans fail we are fallible
Wmk2
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