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Old 11th May 2013, 12:23
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SpazSinbad
 
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'dragartist' which aircraft do you refer to in your post?

If I can make a comparison to A4G brakes (quite good really but had to be controlled precisely with toe differential braking rudder pedals) with Sea Venom brakes. It was easy to burst a tyre (depending on tyre pressure) in the A4G. A4G tyre pressures doubled for embarked ops; when ashore from the deck things could be tricky (when working up for example [carqual]). Like most high pressure tyre aircraft it was also easy to aquaplane on water covered runways in an A4G - the wing spoilers were useful of course but if forgotten during first runway landing from embarked ops (not used on deck) then things got tricky quickly depending on w/x.

The Sea Venom had Girling Maxaret Brakes. These were excellent in any circumstance I encountered - but never embarked - the Venom was at the end of days when I flew them (second last RAN FAA sortie ever) only ashore. Sorties were banner tow, Delmar Target Tow and other Fleet Support with a bunch of sorties against A4G OFS students (as an aggressor) or whatever. I'm guessing the F-35s will have equivalent anti-lock capabilities for excellent brake performance.
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'dat581' if you download the different sized examples of PDFs online you will see 'shabby A4Gs'.

https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=cbcd6...6&sa=822839791

The early A4Gs had original dull paintwork that caught all the oil/hydraulic leaks and whatnots. However this original paintwork (anti glint) was not hard wearing so gradually the paint was changed with bits being painted in gloss to stop the paint peeling off. By the time the second batch of second hand A-4Fs converted to A4Gs arrived in their high gloss paint scheme it was decided this was the way to go. The high gloss paint was rugged (compared to dull) and it resisted the oil/hydraulic leak stains. They could still look shabby - especially underneath when embarked. Or when in later years when 'tram tracks' installed aft of the island so that A4Gs were parked their during landing ops, the funnel gas would quickly corroded the paint finish. Have a look at 'A-4 Alley Photos' for this especially:

The A-4 Alley - RAN A-4 Skyhawk Operations 1968-1984

http://a4-alley.x90x.net/A4-Alley/RA...tramtracks.JPG

"“Down chains, off brakes, come ahead slowly !” Newly promoted LEUT ‘Bruiser’ Baddams RAN nervously applies generous throttle to get N13-154903 (side number 882) rolling forward as the ship (HMAS ‘Melbourne’ CVS-21) starts a roll to stbd, threatening to tip his lightly loaded (note the lack of external fuel tanks or armament) a/c backwards over the side. That single white line the a/c’s nosewheel is about to cross is the flight deck safety line (the edge of the landing path visible to the upper right), illustrating how narrow the ship’s flight deck was and just how far the WIDE wingspan of the RAN’s twin prop S-2G Tracker ASW a/c reached …That’s why the ship was modified to add what we called the ‘tram tracks’ jutting out over the ship’s side. These allowed a number of Skyhawks to be parked along (over) the ship’s side aft of the ‘island’ … which is also why they ended-up with that curious (and hopelessly ineffective) yellow paint all over their leading edges, as may be seen on 882). It probably also accounts for why 882 has another a/c’s nose cone … the ‘control’ part of corrosion control was almost non-existent aboard ship. (Text and Picture Laurie Hillier)."
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For 'Engines' the original "Spastic" Al Hickling is in the A4G overhead whilst that other lad is pretending to YAK (and he is 6 foot - to qualify for the 'six foot yak') on the radio:

http://a4-alley.x90x.net/A4-Alley/RA...croftRange.jpg

Last edited by SpazSinbad; 11th May 2013 at 13:43. Reason: add SkyDrive URL + spullin
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