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Old 7th May 2013 | 08:24
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SINGAPURCANAC
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thanks to all for taking part, excellent ideas and useful help.

Let s start ,
Company: Air navigation Service provider
Number of people: less than 100
Legislation: standard European requirements ( yes I know, it is very broad definition , but it seems that it works all around Europe the same way. someone EU/EASA/Eurocontrol puts regulation but local regulator is key player. It takes time before some signed regulation come into force. )

I spent a lot time trying to introduce effective SMS. Reason? It will be better with it . I have tried many attempts and always found a wall. Bigger or smaller. I did all changes in approaches, and everything that mentioned here as a problem I had already seen and adopted.

But again it doesn't work.

We still have sentence, " We don't need it , and SMS ( non existence of it ) is not problem. "

I am aware and have no doubt that SMS related problems are actually management problems but I would like to find answers.

it seems that bye sums it nicely so I will try to discuss on his notes,

imposition of change upon them without their agreement or buy in, when they have been doing the job ok for years and you come along and tell them it must be done a different way because their way is wrong
At first I never do anything that it is not agreed with managers. that is where "walls" started basically. They believe that problems are nor safety related. And I change politics, not telling that they doing wrong, but again no results.
Whatever kind of approach we take ,soon or later we faced the same answer. It is not SMS related. End of story.

but not convincing them why they should change,
what to tell to convince them? I give numbers, laws, and more importantly solution but nothing changes. I am trying to avoid the worst possible solution for convincing. Serious occurrence.

new boy coming
I would like to be "a new boy" but after 15 years of operational work, it is not applicable.


reasons and drivers for implementing
what is wrong with idea to make better job environment?

we do change drivers,a few times. That is point where I started to seriously think about problem. At first I believed that it will be easy job. We had educated managers, our colleagues and more importantly friends at one side and need to improve things. Solutions were at hands. But resistance started. Recognized it immediately, and changed tactics. Pushed others to do it, but results were even worse. Stop doing anything in order to give time for convincing, again nothing. Now turning to game and trying to understand problem in order to find workable solution.

somewhere I read that ,that there is no change before personal changes. that is the reason why they blocked all changes, they protect their chairs(positions) .

Here is point. Neither me nor anyone else concerned asks for positions. At least not theirs positions. It has just been offered to improve environment,by implementing effective SMS. Either way solutions has been given, always taking into consideration personal need ( money and carrier ) and so on.

and that is where I am confused and worried.

thanks for taking part in discussion.

And one more question,
Does anybody know for long run successful aviation business without effective SMS ?
Just curious to know

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