Was that the Phantom departing KSTL?
Galaxy
The St Louis Phantom still belonged to the factory, but was intended as a replacement for one lost by my Squadron. Believe that was a control linkage disconnection.
Originally Posted by exeng
If you need 70 degrees of bank to keep the aircraft from stalling at that moment in time then you are toast very shortly after.
As I'm sure you know, that statement is true only if they would try to stabilize in level flight at 70 degree bank.
The key question is, at what AOA did the aircraft want to fly? If it was greater than stall AOA for that configuration (including crew pushing the yokes to the forward stop), and no more flap was available, then the situation would be absolutely unrecoverable. If the resulting configuration could be flown at less than stall AOA, then possibly a temporary recovery could be finessed, provided the crew immediately recognized the severity of the problem and then promptly rolled the aircraft to get the nose down. All that would do is buy time to either correct the pitch up problem or to at least minimize it.