framer..old school is out..it's the pigs running the farm now..bottom line is that it's more realistic to accept the prescribed hull losses than train the crew appropriately..new a/c products are supremely reliable so it's down to the most basic SOP's and no or little experience... Sad, I know. The irony now, is that the GA world requires the guys with good hands and feet..you can't fly an Otter through the QRH!!!