Yes, litter is a big problem in lots of places. I had in mind that the Southern Alps are still relatively (somewhat?) clean, but am happy to be corrected.
Weheka - a straw man argument is often seen in politics. Here's how it works: Party A makes a policy statement that seems basically reasonable, although it could be argued against. Party B takes the policy, finds a really extreme example that is entirely unreasonable and easy to mock (the straw man, easily demolished) and publishes it, hoping to make Party A look stupid &/or naive. The technique is good for points-scoring.
I would remove the word "deliberately" from "Each to his own to enjoy, as long as they don't deliberately annoy other people". Then we would be in agreement, and would need to find something else to disagree about!
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