mmm seem to have ruffled, a few feathers bjcc, that was not my intention, And at no point did I mention only BAA airports, been into FCO,TIA, or AII , lately a complete shambles, and as we all know if you come in via CCs you can bring in your own Hand grenade(not Funny) the jury is out on that one, I however believe that the security of Airports should not be 100% in the commercial sector, peatnuts= Monkeys , getting the right mixture of private and goverment co-operation is important, for effective security. darkstar I never was one of them, totally independent , you have my regards