Mad Jock, I recently sat one of these folks in the right seat of my 421, {used for buisiness and charity flying into some pretty poor strips} smart, well spoken, keen and all that good stuff, but without a doubt the worst pilot Ive ever had the misfortune to observe in over fifty nine years of flying, I think I gained an insisght into the Air France hull loss . Its a bloody crime that his parents emptied their savings and sent this kid to some place of shore believing this would get him a job this side of the pond, {they told me that they belived the sales pitch from this place, and had no clue about the real requirments in our part of the globe} I reapeat, he is not a stupid kid, but the basics were totally lacking, he is smart enough to understand this and is now starting again with his training, this time I hope he gets the kind of training needed to do the sort of flying required to land him a job in "our world".