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Old 14th Mar 2013, 22:43
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kbrockman
 
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who knows what we need post 2030???

It's called the future,

Post 2030 there is nothing today that will do, not the Eurocanards, not the Russian or Chinese fighter-jets and not the F22 or F35.
Our Eurocanards by then will need to be upgraded (like everything else too) to be able to keep the upper-hand.

You somehow have fallen into one of the cheapest marketing traps ever conceived by any company in the arms industry, the generations trap, LM most successful selling tool.

The F22, EF, Rafale ,SH , Gripen NG and now also the F35 are all of the same generation, modern highly efficient and extremely reliable engines, modern production methods, modern avionics, modern materials, modern link capabilities, all the latest weapons can be integrated, that is what makes them the most current generation fighters, not 1 specific capability like eg stealth.

Originally LM described 5th generation as super-cruise, stealth(VLO), easy to maintain, sensor fusion, and highly manoeuvrable with lots of SA.
Lacking any of these points would mean not 5 th generation .
Please tell me what aircraft is 5th gen with these original parameters? The F22 comes closest (but still lacks HMCS, HOBS and is by no means easy to maintain), second comes the EF which in its T3 outfit will tick all boxes except VLO, the F35 doesn't even come close on speed and agility but still LM maintains that nothing but their products are 5th gen, strange, no?

One thing is certain if 2030 comes and we need to use our airforces let's hope the enemy has no more than a couple of dozens of fighters because we sure as hell will not have anywhere near enough of them to fight them off if we keep on getting involved in projects like the F35.
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