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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 09:14
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Wirbelsturm
 
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Oh, a double pronged attack on a Sunday morning! Must be a slow day at Unite.

The facts are Wurvlsturn that you do not have a clue what went on in negotiations between the company and BASSA
Oh really? How can you be so sure? The facts were there to be read, also the rather puerile nature of the negotiating team was out in the public domain for all to see (as was the punch up with CC89 in the car park for daring to arrange a settlement with BA).

You haughtily comment on airlines like SAS and Alitalia regarding wage costs, but these airlines were not brought to their knees due to cabin crew pay. Your simplistic analysis does not bear scrutiny when you witness the profits BA have just announced, even though their Flight Crew are among the highest paid in the world.
Remind me again why ALL other departments within BA had to come up with cost savings? Why BA went through a long, drawn out process of re-negotiating all supply contracts, why BA re-negotiated fuel contracts, hotel suppliers, navigation fees, re-routed flights to avoid specific, high charging navigation sectors etc. etc. etc. Please explain why, after all those savings had been successfully negotiated, calculated and added into the business plan BASSA still feels that they were the only ones under the thumb? Two primary driving variable costs in BA, fuel and personnel. The whole airline took a cut except BASSA. You gained the status quo and condemned your members to a withering future with no new routes, promotions or aircraft. You kept your current pay though until you cease to exist which, with the growth of Mixed Fleet, won't be long. Which is a shame as those who you have so shamelessly led to the wall, the normal, hard working crew, are a nice bunch who deserved far better than BASSA gave them.

Once again the blinkered, self centred view that BASSA are the centre of the known universe comes to the fore. Sorry but the negotiations for the CC settlement were merely a small cog in a big machine. So much so that the company, it's board and the shareholders thought the IA costs for the short term were worth the savings in the long term.

Oh and look at the result, after a COMPANY WIDE savings initiative, the company is making a profit. What a surprise in my 'simplistic analysis' which, oddly enough, seems to be mirrored by the city with the share price on the up.

You are dead meat when Willie turns his attention to dealing with the huge endemic costs and waste of our Bidline, and the burgeoning liability of Flight Crew pay to the bottom line.
Most certainly not true and the ever present playground bully quote of 'you are dead meat' has been dealt with pages and pages before, keep up. Look at top line IB pay before claiming that BA are the highest paid. RTFQ.

It's surprises me that you continue to argue about BA when BA turned a profit and IB lost almost 1Bn Euro over the same period, yet continually you spout on about how nasty and over paid the pilots are in BA which is totally irrelevant. Change needs to come to IB. With a re-structuring of the IB business model then the 12% from BANKIA will be snapped up especially when coupled with the emergence of the recently merged AA/US Airways into the One World alliance.

Obviously in my bumpkin, simplistic view.

White with one Wonker.

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