Correct, Doze, about the reference to a mach/high speed buffet. I can't read minds, especially those of ghosts, so the comment about "crazy speed" is still puzzling.
I discount confusion about the turbulence, as seems most of use can easily tell the diference between "chop" and an airframe buffet ( high or low speed). My own experience with approach to stall in the bent wing birds is that the buffet/burble/shaking is a lot different than turbulence in a storm or near a storm or even "light chop" you see in clear air when near the tropo boundary or the edge of the jet stream. Departure in the VooDoo was prefaced with noticeable buffet and wing rock. The SLUF also shook and rocked. The Deuce was as smooth as silk and the only thing you felt was a buzz ( could hear it, also). Next thing you knew you had the VVI pegged going down until you released back pressure and moved the stick forward.
and so the saga continues, heh heh
Last edited by gums; 21st Feb 2013 at 18:09.