Also consider that for the cost of a few month's Sky subs you could have a box and a second dish with a double LNB, one,say,taking the signals from Hotbird and the other pointing at the Astra 1 satellites and you get several hundred Spanish,French,German,Italian,Polish etc etc channels all gratis.Also,if,like me, your French and German is not very good many of the programmes have subtitles obtained via teletext