Thank you all for your replies,I am afraid I dont share your confidence on it being all right on the night. Row 12 J and K are still available (747) which because of the extra space is ideal for me, and I will purchase them. BUT these seats are also ideal for families with small children, and I can see us geriatrics being bumped, quite rightly, but bumped where?, we do want to sit together, and though I am an Exec Club Member I have no points whatsoever. My days of travelling round the world with 32 bags of gear and the resultant excess baggage charges have long gone Being unduly pessamistic how does one get a refund for the prebooking fee? Interestingly, the return flight which is on a Saturday night is completely free, and I can have any seat or combination I want. We will see what happens regards Alan