keesje - is there any valid reason why you don't want to answer the 2 questions that I posed to you at 1400 today? I fully understand that it is easier to criticise other countries' policies (particularly when you adopt an ill-informed populist approach) than it is to be introspective - but you are overdue an explanation to me as to why your countrymen in the very recent past were prepared to deny the right of self-determination to a community of people and then criticise UK for defending that principal. Do you disagree with permitting said right to self-determination? To put it into context - we're talking a longer timescale that the existence of the disfunctional state of Belgium here!