I think someone's just being a bit provocative about the shutdown record in HLA. The earlier posts in the thead are all about Britannias rescuing Belfasts with duff Tynes etc. Yes, there were possibly two LP5 failures I can remember (one at Akinci needing a 3E ferry), but most shutdowns were prompted by gear box drive problems. Remember double alternator failures? I know about 5 of those. Not all required gearbox changes. 30W eastbound, Bateen, Stansted, enroute ICT - BGR, enroute FAO -CWL. One engine overheat enroute ASI - DKR. Stopping from V1 minus about 2 kts at SEN with a fuel pump fracture failure and fluctuating/decaying tq. There may have been more in the 4500 hrs I did on them. I don't think we did anything wrong, but ask Hockham Admiral - I think he has the highest hours of anyone on the SH5. We wouldn't have a bad word said about them. Keep the one at Cosford. I hope they cut up the one at Cairns - it's time.