Serious topic
Gentlemen, and those who really should be in bed at this hour but seem to continue to post anyway.
The pettiness might have been mildly amusing at the beginning but is now bloody boring, off topic and mindless.
There have been some good points made here but I suspect many can't be asked to trawl through the rubbish as is shown by the diminishing number of 'posters'.
Play the ball and not the man isn't that difficult-or is it.