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Old 6th Feb 2003, 00:28
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Chimbu chuckles

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AU-708 23 nov 01

3 Operations in Class E Airspace

3.3.2

VFR flights entering and operating in Class E airspace should:
a. Avoid published IFR routes, where possible;
b. Unless recieving RIS, monitor the Class G area frequency; and
c. take appropriate action to avoid potential conflict.

OR

AU-801 6 dec 02

2 Air Traffic Clearances and Instructions

2.1.4

Within VHF radio coverage, pilots must maintain continous communications with ATC when operating in Classes A, C and D airspace, as must pilots of IFR flights in Class E airspace. Further, when in Class E airspace, pilots of VFR flights should monitor the ATS frequency appropriate to the area of operation.

So which is it? Should we monitor Class G Area VHF or ATS VHF?

Or are we next going to have dual VHF as mandatory for VFR operations in Class E airspace?

Why can VFR flights operate in Class E without clearance but IFR need clearance?

It would seem to me you are mixing aircraft on full reporting(and/or RIS) with aircraft that are not. Gotta be a recipe for pain sooner or later.

Why not have IFR/VFR nil clearance required in Class E BUT all aircraft must be fitted with operational Mode C and have it turned on? Seems that would be simple and in combination with the IFR & VFR cruising levels and RIS to IFR and on request to VFR, would keep everyone apart.

Seems it would also solve the IFR Climb in VMC in Class E quandry, in fact they could climb anytime they liked, VMC or no, having requested traffic info from ATS.

Or am I being silly?

Chuck.
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