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Old 17th Jan 2013, 14:59
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Fareastdriver
 
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Sasless; stick to that that you know about; you are an ex US Army helicopter pilot that has done time in th UK as a North Sea rotary pilot.

You know bugger-all about bombing......

I am also an ex miltary and North Sea pilot but I have spent some in Bomber Command RAF, so I have picked up a bit of knowledge about how those that actually chuck the HE at the baddies actually work.

As you can, no doubt, pick up your trusty Winchester 73 and drop a fleeing burgler at 50 yards in a hurricane then you know about the wind effect on missiles. A bombsight will, if you believe Norden, drop a 750lb bomb into a pickle barrel at 30,000 ft.

Your trusty B52 during the Gulf and subsequent punch-ups was after their 15th or so upgrade and were not using bombsights as such, either visual or internal radar because the mighty GPS had taken over. They dialled in the target, he autopilot took over and at the designated time it would release the bombs on the wind information that had been programmed into it. Just to make sure they had half-a-dozen 52s flying in formation that did the same thing.

Your poor old Vulcan boring into Stamley manned by people who were already into their retirement programme, using an analoque cold war navigation bombing system and had to fly thousands of miles and drop one stick of bombs on a runway so as to make it unusable.

The lost art of bombing requires four things. The wind speed at release, the wind speed at the target and the the flight characteristics of the bomb. The forth is an interpelation ot the wind during th descent which is normally a comprimise between the upper an lower winds. The Vulcan crew has two of those but no knowledge of the surface or the mid level wind.

They released 29 bombs within one second travelling at 360 ft/sec. Despite that they had Cold War radar with what would be regarded nowadays as appalling definition and no surface weather information they put their stick so that one end of it hit the target. The USAF would have put a fleet of B52s thatwould have obliterated Stanley airfield and and most of the township.

In 1945 General Kesselring, Commander of the Southern German Army was asked of his opinions of the bombing in Italy. "When the Germans bomb the Allies duck. When the British bomb the Germans duck When the Americans bomb everybody ducks."

In 1945 a B29 crew had unlimited hours practising bombing so that they could deliver a certain bomb within a defined area.

They missd their aiming point in Hiroshima by 800 yards.

If you ever come back to Aberdeen we'll have a few beers together again.

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Last edited by Fareastdriver; 17th Jan 2013 at 20:11. Reason: Give Elona Gay its correct prefix
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