I Agree whole heartedly with tecman, being a CPL student especially one in a nothing to ATPL environment, does not equate to good airman ship or skill. I have seen some pretty ropey aviating from chaps (and chapettes) who have more hours on me. Whole field landings, 16 mile downwind legs, and turns which look like side slips to name a few... not even mentioning some of the most incompetent RT i have ever heard .. position reporting being the worst culprit. That landing was terrible but i'm not sure i'd have done that much better,...