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Old 6th January 2013 | 17:23
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Mike-Bracknell
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Originally Posted by Pelikal
Well I'm back...SOME SUCCESS!!

I can now see my entire (extremely messy) Mac desktop on the Toshiba (XP Pro).

On the Tosh, I went Start ˃ My Network Places ˃ Entire Network ˃ Microsoft Windows Network and I saw Workgroup. So I double-clicked on that and to my surprise I saw Mac OSX (my-computer). A few clicks and there I was! So I can now copy files to the Mac.

Thing is I still can't log into the workgroup from the Mac which is what I would like to do.
Unlike a homegroup (or Windows server domain) you don't "log in to a workgroup" per se, as it's not a shared set of services at all other than for computer browsing purposes (which in previous posts on the subject I pointed out has been broken/depracated since 1995 anyway as the browse-mastering "byte" in Windows 95 should have been a "long", and hence resulted in many truncated browse lists in larger networks with Win95).

In workgroups, therefore, your ability (or otherwise) to log into a 'server' is dictated solely by the permissions set on the serving server.

I go Connect to Server.

Server Address:

smb://(Tosh IP address)

Click Connect, I get:

SMB/CIFS Filesystem Authentification

Enter username and password for (ME):

Workgroup/Domain:
WORKGROUP

Username:
This is where I'm confused. It comes up automatically with the Tosh computer/system name which is different to my account name. The account I'm using on the Tosh is Administrator with a simple password.
Irrespective of any simplification performed by some structures (such as domains, homegroups, or 3rd party Samba-esque services), ALL Windows (CIFS/SMB)-based services are logged into via the construct:

"device\username" (without quotes, and ensuring you're using the correct backslash rather than forwardslash).

"device" in a workgroup is the NetBIOS name of the PC. e.g. "Tosh-PC" (or whatever you're using). Hence in that example your username would be "tosh-pc\administrator" (again without quotes).

Password:
The password which I login as Administrator on start-up.

The error msg I get on the Mac is:

The Finder cannot complete the operation because some data in "smb://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" could not be read or written. (error code -36).

I know to an extent this has already been covered by previous replies but I'm trying to consolidate it.

I'm actually still unsure whether I should be using the Macs user details or the Tosh user details! I guess it doesn't really matter that I can't get into the PC from the Mac as least I can copy files to the Mac from the Tosh which was the idea. I would like to know what I was doing wrong though.
Definitely, as mentioned above, use the credentials of the serving computer, as that's how the resource has been secured. Your PC has no knowledge of your Mac in this instance so how would it ever be able to discern between it's username being valid or invalid?
Is there another way of connecting to the PC? ie I'm using smb://etc etc.
SMB = Server Message Block (aka CIFS - Common Internet File System) - it's the Microsoft originated protocol for file operations, so you're using the right thing.
When I get the files sorted out on the Mac I can then think about transferring them to the HP (Windows7).

Sorry about the long-winded post and hope I've made it clear where I am now. Thanks for all the assistance as I have partially fulfilled my aim!

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