It seems thud105 and vetflyer have a rather unique, new vision on the war in the Netherlands. While we quickly surrendered the Germans somehow lost 400 aircraft had a para operation being suppressed and so had started bombing RTM city center and where preparing to flatten other cities too.
During the first few years the Germans tried to integrate the Netherlands (supposed to Belong to the right race) but things turned grim after Jewish citizens started to get deported, young men had to join workforces and underground started attacks.
Pretty soon SD torture centers where opened everywhere, dirty wars full of unknown hero's and unknow traittors were close, not on the other side of a sea. Mass executions took place and many people were on the wanted lists and had to hide (my grandfather) to escape arrest, torture concentration camps and execution.
Blokes like thud105 and vetflyer, well, they will always be there..