I understand the concern re the crewing issues above, great to read everyones views, something Mr Sims from the ACCC will not consider I guess as it is not his gig. Maintaining Aussie jobs seems to be a side issue no one will address... In this video Sims indeed gives the QF/EK tie up the thumbs up but a few days later casts doubt over the Virgin/Tiger takeover....
SQ have already announced an extra service to London once QF pulls out of Singapore in favour of Dubai. I doubt J* will have an easy time competing with this should Joyce replace the Qantas brand with J* to LHR via Singa's, for me the latter doesn't have the brand power.
I think Ben Sandilands explains the Virgin/Tiger issue better than I can here.
ACCC has doubts about Virgin and Tiger | Plane Talking
by hotnhigh An interesting parallel perhaps?
Business-class socialist | The Economist
Yet this youthful, left-leaning boss has hit BA like a whirlwind. Within weeks of his acceding to the throne in January 1996, management heads had rolled and a new structure was in place. By last autumn, he was unveiling his plan to cut £1 billion off BA's annual operating costs over three years. Service activities such as maintenance and catering would be outsourced, leaving only essential operations done in-house. That way BA could focus on running flights, filling them and serving customers in a streamlined “virtual airline”.
British Airways: Care for a downgrade? | The Economist
Where does this former airlines ceo's grand plan stand these days?
The same will be said of Joyce and Cliffords.
Thanks for the link hotnhigh, it's a good read, an issue that appears to be where things are currently at with Qantas management, just replace the name Ayling with Joyce...
As I was working in the UK when the BA Go fly thing was happening, Ayling who instigated the LCC- Premium two brand strategy came unstuck and was unceremoniously dumped from his job, he managed to upset everyone who had anything to do with BA. Basically he destroyed the place. I compiled a pdf file on this part of BAs history for those interested,
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B85Q...NsM2VUSms/edit
It's a bit long... but covers most of the issues of that time.. For me, it's frightening to think that none of the big investors can see what Joyce is doing... he is doing a Robert Ayling, it's just the script has changed. I fear Joyce could do more terminal damage to Qantas (than Ayling did to BA) if he is allowed to continue for much longer, everyone I have spoken to over the this holiday period despise him unprompted by me. He is not a good face for Qantas, that I am now convinced of.
Basically we have until the 18th of January for someone to come up with a pretty good argument against the QF/EK tie up or Sims will cast it in stone for the next five years...
by busdriver007 Aer Lingus, Open Skies(British Airways) all bloody disasters as the passengers left in droves. Other point is they have been doing it with Atlas Air for years, e.g. Qantas flight numbers, wet leased crew....Remember Australia has only one airline that conforms with the Civil Aviation Navigation Act as Virgin is a majority foreign owned airline...The end is near. The Australian airline industry is f#%^&#ked.....How stupid are the Aussies! 2nd Jan 2013 21:00
Pretty much where it is headed in my view as well...