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Old 17th Dec 2012, 12:14
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Previous discussions homed in on the man or the machine depending on point of view; but with evolving understanding of human behaviour and the changing need for automation in complex operating situations, a wider systematic view is required

I am staggered at the amount of bumpf written on the subject of unusual attitude recoveries. Christ Almighty - we learned this stuff on Tiger Moths years ago. And that was real limited panel recoveries with no ADI. The whole problem in the first place is surely unassailable evidence that almost every jet transport accident put down to loss of control in IMC were caused primarily by the pilots piss-poor hand flying instrument flying ability. They were the product of our age - automatic monkeys.

Having got themselves for whatever reason into an unusual attitude in IMC, the evidence showed they had no idea how to recover on instruments; and even if they could understand what the flight instruments were telling them, they did not have the basic instrument flying skills to get out of trouble.

What a shocking indictment on the airline and simulator provider training systems that have permiited this state of affairs to continue. It will get worse as the new breed of MPL cadets hit the RH seat to with no hands on basic instrument flying skills.

The time is well overdue for State regulators to use their authority and demand airline operators face up to the fact that LOC accidents will continue to occur periodically, unless steps are taken to re-inforce more meaningful raw data IMC hands on flying in simulators and during appropriate times in line flying.

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