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Old 14th December 2012 | 19:39
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Level Attitude
 
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And once, at Manston, some "instructor" said to me it is illegal to fly an IAP in VMC unless one has a safety pilot. Ergo, ipso facto, it is illegal to fly an ILS, single pilot, in anything better than OVC002. I bet he posts here too
The Instructor omitted (or you do not remember their saying) one additional word: "practise" - see Shy Torque's
post of 13/12/2012 13:33

Simulated IMC conditions: At some point, eg the DA, the pilot needs to revert to visual flying. This could be a little low
for fumbling around removing screens (or even removing foggles) and acquiring outside visual references.
Hence need for dual controls and a second pilot.

Practise IAP in VMC: Pilot should be head down scanning the instruments. But "See and Avoid" still applies, especially
outside CAS eg Southend, Cranfield, Farnborough?
Hence need to carry a Competent Observer.
There have been several near misses reported (CHIRP) with the pilot(s) flying the Instrument Approach complaining
that the other aircraft either should not have been there (open FIR 6nm away from airfield!?!) or should have given way
to them (even though rules of the air gave the other aircraft right of way). CAAs response was to confirm that it was
the Instrument Approach traffic which had the duty to see and give way.

In real IMC then (hopefully) any other aircraft will be known about - even with a procedural approach to a non-radar ATC airfield.

Only case which could be worrying (but not illegal) is a real (ie non-practise) IAP in VMC oustide of CAS - I bet Easyjet
are already lobbying for Southend's CTZ to be expanded!


What is a practise ILS? I would suggest it is someone who has been trained and is reasonably competent excersing their
skill in order to remain current.

I do not think it is for someone who wants to give it a go because it is new/different.

Original Poster says he has PPL only and gives the impression (excuse me if I am wrong) of being fairly newly qualified - he
asks, on another thread, how to use the Primer on the PA28 he intends to take to Edinburgh.

Too many things could go wrong if he asks for an ILS Approach.
Including communication misunderstanding with ATC - not good in Controlled Airspace.
Hence my suggestion that he asks only for what he knows: Long straight in visual approach and on that approach he can
use/not use the Localizer/GS/DME as much or as little as he wishes - as long as most of the time his eyes
are outside the window.
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