Originally Posted by
treboryelk
got a chart number on for those two sids.....can only find one on navtech
Not only is chart 10-3H an OCEAN 2A/2C departure. Chart 10-3W is also OCEAN 2A/2C departure but this one is for "non-RNP1/P-RNAV approved aircraft or whose RNP1/P-RNAV capability has been degraded before departure". There is a slight difference in routing but perhaps they are close enough together that ATC doesn't care which one you fly when cleared for one of these SIDS.
Actually, now that I look through the SIDS a bit more, a lot of them seem to have the same thing, either being for RNP equipped aircraft or not and published on two separate pages.
Originally Posted by
Steve the Pirate
JS
Have a look at OM-A 8.3 page 23, RNP-1, second paragraph.
STP
Feel free to let me know what that paragraph is saying Steve. Much appreciated.
HKG ATC do not like you submitting a FLT PLN with the SID on it, they want you to enter the transition point only as the SID will be issued by delivery and may not match what you files - Can't give you the AIP reference but from a few nasty-grams that is what experience tells me
The company I fly for seems to file a specific SID for every departure out of HKG.
Anyways....thanks "jtr" for the information. Your information is very helpful
I had not seen the Altena 1E and some other E/F departures specifically mentioning about RTF. We ended up using the Rasse PRNAV departure(but non-RTF)last night.
I shall look into whether being P-RNAV equipped means you are capable to do RTF departures.
Originally Posted by
iflylow
Holy crap, do you want us to hold your hand while you ask?
As for "iflylow"....I am really glad I don't fly with low