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Old 27th January 2003 | 20:14
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well, what would you like he/she to do? Find public transport at all times of the day or night? Lets face it, impossible. Stay in the car and sleep? Then drive home in time to turn round and come back to the airport? Go sick every time?

No not at all. Local digs would be a good idea though. If you want to live miles away, as do Ops, Crewing, Engineers etc get digs. For your own sake, it is cheaper. I have known chaps in the past commute from Cornwall to Birmingham with no problems. Drive up on day one, drive home on last day. I have also seen guys who live 2-3 Hrs away commute daily. Never an issue until their plans screwed up. Guess what, the fatigue card played.

People do not go sick "fatigued" because the usual reply from crewing is "are you refusing to fly?" Then "well, its legal." Next comes the phone call from a pilot manager asking you why you're fatigued when other pilots have flown exactly the same duty and they haven't reported "fatigued". A load of unneccessary hassle and bull!!!! I think you'd agree, especially when the reason you're phoning in "fatigued" is because your bloody knackered!! Add to this the fact that this is probably not a one off event, but a rostering pattern that repeats itself again and again, and you'll see why pilots just "go sick" instead of "fatigued".


As I have posted years ago on this subject, If (as the line manager of Crew Control) any of my chaps took that angle?

Every case of (claimed) fatigue has been notified PRE rest period.

You seem to have missed the word PRE.
The only cases of Fatigue Sickness have been phoned in, from the Crewroom, on completing a duty, PRIOR TO TAKING MIN REST.


I take it it is OK for you to take a Bird worked and signed by a grubbie 24 Hrs on shift? On his head be it perhaps?

On all occasions, I have seen fatigue claimed for personal reasons, it can normally be married up to refused requests, standby gambles etc.

If you cry wolf, eventual resut, no ****** will believe you!

Fly safe, it saves me work...................
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