Ginge, not heard of the effect on renal system ? Not a Doc & I thought Renal meant something to do with me Aunty Rena.BORT...........long thread..........I did mention a mate of mine, on statins, pissing black tar. forced to take statins. He did so, only prior to a medical, so that the reading would please his Company Doc. Blood traces were found in his urine & blinkers went back on as they then subjected him to all sorts of further tests which started to affect his psychology ! Look, he tossed the lot down the toilet after retiring & looks fantastic. Mediterranean diet, reasonable exercise & enjoying his stress free retirement seems to have worked for this guy.