Ok . . . Ok . . . . yes I am an Alison trained tech ! ! the start is monitored throughout and haven't exceeded 830 on any starts. The first start at 8-10 is stopped at 750* and allowed to coll to 150* before 2nd start. After 1st start all starts after that are 20 -24 sec from initial to 58% and max TOT of 770 - 810 ?????? Anyone got some help on where to start looking ????? I think its probably fuel pump ???? Any boffins out there ???