The answer has to come from the EU. There is no way that the national goverment or the CAA will go it alone on introducing better conditions. We get a lot of noise from BALPA but no achievements, what we need is a high profile campaign to highlite the problems. Air 2000 have got a revised scheduling agreement that devotes lots of space to defining days of etc, but can only fiddle at the margins trying to avoid roster disruption, it is full of holes that allows the company to do what it likes. It doesn't address the real problems of hours worked and subsequent fatigue. I fear that until we have a real upset due to fatigue the politicians will keep their heads in the sand.