danny, that is a bit "broad brush/disingenious" the number of years you must have worked in Spain to achieve a "full pension" ( & that is NOT a lot of € ) increases every year.
If you think you can work 20 years in (say) UK & come to Spain, work 5, and claim a full pension. . .well.
I think you are well intentioned, but you are coming across as a sort of "EEC apologist". With the greatest of respect, please look at the efforts the EEC have made to harmonise things that may benefit us (healthcare/pensions/sick-pay/acceptance of academic qualifications ) & compare it with the effort devoted to things like harmonisation of speeding fines etc . . .and draw your own conclusions.
I am totally with you in the discussion about Ryanair making loads of dosh flying as a "Spanish airline" whilst contributing Nada to Spain (well except the small matter of several million extra tourists
) but, please stop muddying the waters of the "discussion" on this thread, with what, is actually, YOUR agenda. You are correct, but stop hijacking threads. A and C is 100% totally correct in his assertions, & if you really think that he (and me too) are responsible for the problems in Spain, could I suggest you turn your attentions to the "Manana" philosophy that has existed here for the past couple of decades in relation to building/ public expenditure/banking . . . . you are a little bit "Red Robbo", this isn't maybe so bad, but direct your criticisms /vitriol accurately & lay off A and C (your posting history doesn't lend you much impartiality here
) as I am in a similar situation & find your "Socialist/Brussels knows best" rantings misguided at best. In all seriousness, have you ever actually been in Spain, unemployed , and tried to claim something based on your years of "service" in (for example) the UK, or France ? nope ? me yes. . . . believe me, I will only pay if I "may" get something in return, and I fully respect the views of anyone holding the same opinion.
Your "idealism" is trumped by the "reality" of the failure of the EEC countries to even begin to harmonise the things that actually matter on a day to day basis , to those of us living here ( as spanner the cat alluded to in a slightly less verbose manner)
Go away, try being unemployed in "another" EEC country & then come back & tell us all to "PAY UP". . . . . . . Nah, don't think you will shout so loud
