Originally Posted by RetiredF4
The culprit was to get in such a high pitch firsthand after AP disconnect. Only a drstic maneuver would have corrected this pitch timly, and neither PF nor PNF saw the necessity for it and therefore were not prepared to execute it.
Could you please elaborate, because I don't understand what you are saying. Are you referring to the first, rather gentle pull-up (1 deg/sec) immediately after A/P disconnect, that was partially corrected before 02:10:49, or to the second that pulled the airplane in the stall warning 2 and then stall?