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Grrr Question about my ATPL Training program JAR-FCL

Hello everyone

After getting my PPL(A) , I recently started ATPL(A) studies in the same FTO.(currently only ground studies, will start flying soon)
However, I am not so happy about my training program at this moment.
I will explain the situation

I got my PPL in the same FTO as I am learning for ATPL right now. It was called a Modular PPL course, and all the missions were the same as those in the PPL phase of an ATPL course. My total hours is now 98, most of them on the FTO's aircraft.
According to JAR-FCL, I get 40 hours credit for my ATPL flying because I have a PPL with >80 hours.
"3.1. Credits for holders of a PPL(A) license
In the case of a PPL(A) or PPL(H) entrant, 50% of the aircraft hours flown by the entrant prior to the course may be credited towards the required flight instruction (JAR-FCL 1.165(a)(1) and Appendix 1 to JAR-FCL 1.165(a)(1), paragraph 13) up to a credit of 40 hours flying experience or 45 hours if an aeroplane night flying qualification has been obtained, of which up to 20 hours may be dual instruction. This credit for the hours flown shall be at the discretion of the FTO and entered into the applicant’s training record."


Now, for the flying of the ATPL(A) course, these are the minimum requirements:
- 195 hours of flying training, to include all progress tests, of which up to 55 hours for the entire course may be instrument ground time. Within the total of 195 hours, applicants shall complete at least:
a) 95 hours of dual instruction of which up to 55 hours may be instrument ground time;
b) 70 hours as pilot-in-command including VFR flight and instrument flight time as student pilot-in-command (SPIC). (SPIC time shall be credited as pilot-in- command time, unless the flight instructor had to influence or control any part of the flight. A ground de-briefing by the flight instructor does not affect the crediting as pilot-in-command time);
c) 50 hours of cross-country flight as pilot-in-command including a VFR cross- country flight totalling at least 540 km (300 NM) in the course of which full stop landings at two aerodromes different from the aerodrome of departure shall be made;
d) 5 hours flight time in aeroplanes shall be completed at night comprising 3 hours of dual instruction including at least 1 hour of cross-country navigation and 5 solo take-offs and 5 solo full stop landings; and
e) 115 hours of instrument time comprising, at least:
(i) 50 hours of instrument flight instruction of which up to 25 hours may be
instrument ground time in a FNPT I, or 40 hours if the instrument
ground training is conducted in an FNPT II or flight simulator;
(ii) 20 hours as SPIC; and
(iii) 15 hours multi-crew co-operation, for which a flight simulator or FNPT II
may be used.


Those are the facts, now my problem:
My FTO has credited me 20 hrs PIC VFR and 20hrs Dual VFR and has removed some briefings from my training plan.

However, they now plan me for briefings about VFR flying, circuit training, basic flying maneuvers...
I would rather spend the time on IFR flight training or at least solo Navigations than on circuit training with my instructor...

So do I need to have the briefings and the VFR flying if I already had those in my Modular PPL 10 months ago? Or can I legally just fly the 300NM Xcountry, some VFR navigations and then start IR/ME/CPL ? Thats what I would like to do...

I hope someone can help me out with this...

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