Originally Posted by
mm_flynn
I know the European rules are a muddle right now. However, prior to this, the UK required a safety pilot to assist with flyin (23.2(b) of the Jan 2010 ANO) when conducting simulated instrument flight. Either the second pilot is required crew or he is not - and in this case he appears to be required. This could just be another UK oddball concept where two required pilots are still single crew, but I suspect not. Which leads me back to what if anything does one log if you are required crew but not PIC in a non-multi crew aircraft.
The flight engineer is "required crew" on a Boeing 707/727/Classic 747, DC 8/10. L1011 etc etc but they don't have to be a pilot and if they are they can't count the time. I would suggest that a safety pilot falls into the same category, required for the flight for obvious reasons but the time doesn't count because they are not performing the duties of a pilot.