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Old 19th Jan 2003, 21:30
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CI300
 
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Ahh, Timmeeee. I fear you have my post a little harshly and definitely in the wrong direction.
Let me start.

CI300 old boy, you may very well have a dig at us on the 'West Island' (very droll!) but lets face a few facts here.
Yes it is droll, thats the point. Scan back through previous bleats. You will find a common feature, that is the reference to the "Eastern Island" or "the island to the east".

Australia has had a steady stream of New Zealanders emigrating to Oz for years (a handful the other way) and until recently something like 29,000 were on the dole in Oz as opposed to 189 Australians doing the same in NZ.
Of no relevance to this thread.

The fact of the matter CI300 is that you're not doing your fellow countrymen any favours by knocking Australia or its citizens.
I am not a NZer, although in fairness you dont specify whom my countrymen are. Neither was I knocking Australia, read my post again. There is nothing to read between the lines. It was knocking the few people in this part of the forum that spend their timing knocking others. They seem to be anti VB/QF/AN/NZ/OZ/KIWI and many are Australian.


You appear to have a chip on your shoulders because you cast blame without justification and without firm facts.
I could go through every 'bleat' thread for the past 3 years and record who bleats and where they are from? Would satisfy your quest for fact? I suggest you yourself have no facts to back up a rather large portion of your post. Quite frankly, why I posted was opinion. Nothing more. How about you?

Australia is not responsible for one of your former top celebrated businessmen (Sir Selwyn Cushing) leading the charge to buy an airline in Australia and effectively leaving some 45,000 Australians (direct or indirectly) unemployed after its collapse. We were not responsible for Sir Ron Brierley holding out for more money from the Singaporeans to sell his bad investment in Air NZ untill (sic) it became almost worthless and watered down in the govt buyout.
Air NZ was technically bankrupt as a result of that consequence and saved only by the intervention of the NZ govt.
I suppose the big bad Australians were responsible?
Look at the facts CI300 and you tell me?
I reiterate, not being an NZer, Uncle Sel is nothing to me. I would also suggest that very few people in NZ have anything more than contempt from this grubby man.
As for the facts, you show you have little. Perhaps you would like to chat with the fine ex-AN gentlemen siting across from me? I have first hand experience with what happened. I am not proud, but I am not to blame. I will not be drawn into that argument, which is irrelevant to this thread anymore.
You blaming Australians CI300 makes you look both stupid and petty.
I take it this refers to AN ? I refer to the above points.

Australia has provided some wonderful opportunities for New Zealanders (Sam Neill,Russell 'knock 'em out' Crowe to name but a few) and numerous others who have come to Oz, prospered and then taken their success elsewhere.
Having met Sam once, he seems like a nice guy. He also lives in Queenstown. As for that nutter, your welcome to claim him. But let me add this is also irrelevant to the thread.
I dont hear 20,000,000 Australians complaining about the beer and isnt it funny when I go to Auckland to visit good friends they always have Australian beers in the fridge (or chully bun as you call it).
I am now the proud owner of a "chully bun". I did enjoy that one. But can I ask you what your good Australian friends are doing in bad old NZ?
My signature may give you a hint as to my first choice. Oh, its not from NZ or Australia. As Michael Jackson (the beer hunter, not monkey boy) writes, he never tasted a bad beer until he visited NZ and OZ. (thats not an exact quote, someone may know what it is. ) I do think those days are gone, there are many companies on both sides of the ditch producing fine drops. But it is fun to tease people about their beer. Nuff said.

Look, the bottom line is. I am not anti Australian nor other countries. BTW I am against the foreign policy of a few countries.
Knocking NZ politicians, businessmen companies without balance with your own is what is truly petty. Although in saying that, it does appear that NZ has more clowns to knock than its fair share. Dont forget, nobody was completely innocent.

edited for spelling, crappiness and Apologies for taring all with the same brush, not intended.

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