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Old 12th Oct 2012, 19:29
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That is very different to what Pilots like 007 are contemplating which is to use the chute in ALL cases of engine failure as a SOP.
That idea is being heralded by instructors and various Cirrus clubs with no backup from the manufacturer.

It may or may not be the right thing to do using the chute in all engine failure situations but on whos advice?
Ok, yes I do have pretty much as Pace describes a SOP that means in the event of all off airport landings onto an unknown surface I have chosen to use the Chute, because in my personal opinion I have a better chance of living to tell the tale.

When 4 + years ago I did my transition from then a Turbo Arrow to the Cirrus I was very much a fly it to the ground sort of guy and assumed the chute was the last resort in the event of mid air, engine failure in solid IMC or at night etc and this pretty much stayed with me for several years, so I fully understand the arguments against the chute and the preference for a fly it to the scene of the accident type approach.

The last couple of years and after 400+ Cirrus hours I have now changed my mind completely, and I fully admit being influenced by attending 3 x CPPP's (Cirrus specific training weekends organised by COPA) also by learning a lot from other Cirrus and COPA members and flying with some of the top (IMHO) Cirrus Instructors, and have now formed my own choice that suits me as an amateur pilot of average ability.

I am also very happy to publicly debate this as I believe the chute is largely misunderstood as a gimmick or an aid for incompetent bafoons who can not be bothered to get proper training and charge of into IMC knowing if it goes wrong, never mind , just pull the Chute. A good debate may even motivate some existing Cirrus (or other BRS equipped aircraft) to reconsider their own SOP.

At the start of this thead Mad Jock says that the airframe is a write off, I totaly disagree, there is nothing on that video that would indicate that the aircraft could not be repaired.
Agreed, I know at least 6 of the total 37 Cirrus Caps pulls that are flying again today with very happy new owners, there may be more.

I am told the costs for the repairs have varied from $80K - $160K USD which insurers are very happy about compared to massive litigation costs which has happened in quite a few Cirrus fatal's.

Pace i dont think any serious person is suggesting use the chute in every circumstance. If there is a socking great field in front of you mown to better than wimbelon standards you would hardly reach for the handle
Fuji I recall but may be wrong from a previous thread you made the very valid point that at a 1000ft in unknown territory who can really be certain on the condition of a landing site, whats looks great at 1000ft may be horrible at 100ft and then it is to late, hazards such as ditches, unseen wires, crops, ploughed fields, rocks, gradient, wet boggy ground (especially this year) coming up short, over shooting etc may all be factors that end up killing an average type of guy.

When I drive around the UK there is not that many spots I would like to land my Cirrus at 60+ knots on its tiny wheels and relative high inertia.

Maybe in complete random situations it would work for me in good weather maybe 8 or 9 out of 10 times, I just prefer my odds with the chute and have a pre determined plan before I even take off.
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