NAC has always made money out of the pilots of between US$100 to US$200 per day. They get their contractors to pay "X" per pilot per day, then they pay the pilots what they think is fair. Right now we're sitting in Brazzaville with some NAC Helicopter crews that are getting about US$235 per day plus US$70 per diem, this whilst the going daily rate for helicopter pilots in Africa is about US$500 a day.