yes pretty much straight after type rating, this was the intial sim assesment in Jakarta, I had got past the JAA check ride in Miami but only after 3 extra sessions.
in Jakarta the instruction was poor and I personally felt things were very unclear which led to mistake after mistake, I left the sim furious.
however it is a saftey issue and I do respect Lion air for that, fortunatley I was able to find something else, but the real message here is no the aircraft systems inside out, and be quick with pre-flight etc etc these people will not baby sit folk