"I totally follow what you're saying - however, the idea that the systems weren't relaying useful information (in that it could be processed by the flight crew) simply does not square up with the PNF saying "We've lost the speeds" at approximately 02:10:15 on the CVR - at least to my mind."
Wrong, it was 2:10:16. For eleven seconds the PF may have been following duff data. Your statement is nonsense, unless you ignore the possibility that eleven seconds means nothing, which you would do....
PJ2 you say the a/c would not keep rolling after ap loss, but I think you mean in the context of Normal Law. In Roll Direct, it would keep rolling, NO?
You mention the PF quickly controlled Roll, so I assume you mean his input was appropriate.
The Nose Was Low. We know it was trending UP, but he may not have been cognizant of that, hence the Pull.
It is probably noticeable that I am trying to establish that the PF may have started his manual handling with inputs that while demonstrably inappropriate, might have seemed correct given the conditions.
It is also possible that PF believed the Flight Law was NORMAL LAW. Since this would explain perhaps his apparent ham fisted inputs, I go with that conclusion, for purposes of discussion.
It has always been a challenge to separate conclusions from their bias, and their consequent growth into 'fact'.
I readily admit to looking at everything, however I do not represent that they are conclusions, especially as they are absent from BEA reportage. BEA suggests ICE, the thread assumes Fact. The pilots seem somewhat incompetent, that becomes fact, and subject to constant repetition.
My assumption is that this accident became almost instantly un recoverable, due to many factors. The proper discussion involves a look at everything, even if it is somewhat exculpatory, imho.