Anyone still expect BALPA to fight the fight? The way I remember it, a decade ago BALPA endorsed a new deal without putting it to the members. EZY FOs lost upto £14k gross per annum, through a combination of the cessation of annual bonuses, a heavy reduction in flight pay and salary deductions for crew meals (which were subsequently cut in half with no matched reduction in the deductions, which would be theft). We also lost two weeks leave per annum. Not a lot happened to the Captains, except for the leave and crew food, but all the BALPA reps were promoted to TRE, and a month later a memo went out announcing that all company TREs were getting a 25% rise. Nice. Don't ever expect anything good of BALPA - you're just throwing money away. The only way of ever concentrating the minds of managers is when large numbers vote with their feet or if the media start playing rough.