Originally Posted by
jcjeant
The conversation about the altitude does not prevent the pilot think he can easily take more altitude .. if it has the protections active ..
Then why say that they shouldn't go any higher prior to the problem if he believes the protections will keep them out of trouble?
Those 4 minutes (yes .. they were startled for 4 minutes .. long time .. no ? ) were just ...the game " trying anything and we will see " ...
The zoom climb followed by an ever increasing descent should have been a clue that the protections weren't helping them - at no point until it is too late is the loss of altitude remarked on by the PF. If he was expecting protection, then why did he not remark on the altitude and why did he not remark on the Stall Warning (which should never sound when protections are active)?
They just not try one thing ... push .. push forward the stick ....
Again .. the "surprise" effect ... ?
It would be unfair to speculate as far as I'm concerned. We do have at least three previous incidents (Stony Creek 727, West Caribbean MD-80 and Birgenair 757) where a stall at altitude led to the pilot in command pulling back all the way to the ground - none of those aircraft had protections.