I own a DR400/180..just an example of the amazing capability of the type took the family on holiday to La Rochelle this year 4 adults 40 kg baggage 140lts.(4 hours) of fuel all within correct weight and balance. Take off ground roll from the poh 320m at that weight(1100kg) and it achieved it.I,ve been flying Robins for nearly 40 years...just superb.VBR Stampe