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Old 29th Aug 2012, 12:05
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RetiredF4
 
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@Owain Glyndwr

From all the diagrams I have seen describing how C* works the pitch rate/g mix is a feedback term. S/S movement always commands a load factor as the steady state output just as the BEA report says. What the pitch rate/g term does is change the shape of the transient response between initial stick movement and achievement of the final desired 'g'. The origins lie way back in aircraft handling research when observers noticed that pilots tended to base their opinions on what constituted 'good' behaviour on how the pitch rate transient varied at low speeds and how the 'g' transient varied at high speed. Then somebody thought if that is what they rate as good why can't we give it to them?
Thank you for this input, there was an argument about this some posts back and thankfully we have straightened that one out. Your explanation is sound and easy to understand ( sorry that i couldnīt explain it that way), and now the result of using those fixed high speed gains gets clearer. This sluggish behaviour in pitch would be a new expierience to PF, especiually when the roll channel behaved quite differently (more agile).

Interesting would be, at what point those default values come into action. Is it the point where the speeds are lost or is there some time-delay / internal checking before this changeover takes place? And is this changeover sudden or gradual? Could the initial NU input be under the false speeds ( agressive) and the later correcting attempts under the default gains (sluggish)? When would the default gains be replaced again by the actual speeds?
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