Smoke and Noise - Neither myself or Robert G. Mugabe are the slightest confused. It is not scaremongering to say that if a base does not make money it will close - it is a fact that has been sadly proven by the experiences of Dortmund, East Midlands and now Madrid. It seems to me an entirely accurate view that the Company have no choice but to make money or die - very simple maths in anyone's books. It is indeed the prerogative of the local union to call the bluff of the management when they squawk - it is, however, a very risky business as they are always so well pleased. Se you soon. AdM