easyflyer, I'm not generalising on type of passenger. I would say that the vast majority of pax on RYR and EZY want nothing more than a quiet and pleasant flight. The problem is that you are more likely to come across loud foul-mouthed drunk louts on the cheapest LCCs than on others. I agree that particular routes will suffer more than others. As one who lives outside the UK and uses German LCCs I can also say that the problem is a lot more prevalent with UK pax than other nationalities. I have flown with high spirited groups of German youth and found them polite, respectful and able to have fun without making everybody else's flight a misery.