For the doughty Clandestino ...
There are similarities and differences between naval aviation training and regular airline operation. It is very useful to recognize them properly.
Sorry, but you misunderstand. Naval aviation operations require CRM in multi-place aircraft, JUST AS regular airline operations require CRM. As I noted before, we got a lot of our material, to train our OPERATORS in CRM from the airlines. I had to be trained, and then I trained others.
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You can't do that unless you assess how well the other pilot is doing if things are not going well, or if he isn't flying right.
True but it's far from being the whole truth. Focusing on the details while ignoring the big picture can be counterproductive. -- snipped the rest--
Your response was a lot of words that added nothing.
I stated very clearly what is needed, and I'll stand by my point that such is a core multi-piloted crew requirement. You can't make a decision to take the controls unless you know when it is needed. To do that, you have to have enough SA to know what the aircraft is doing. You also have to have a belief that you may some day have to take the aircraft from someone else. There are some cultural norms to be undone when one is so trained.
I am pretty sure that you know better than that off hand remark you made, in bold, since you do multi-place aricraft flying for a living, and IIRC, are a Captain.
You shouldn't be. I don't. Why do you believe what you read in personal info?
This was also based on our discussion in one of the ATR threads, sorry to have over estimated your experience.
Or are you trying to say something else?
Regarding your wise acre response to my acknowledging a scan transition isssue: no thanks. The pitch and power chorus have been singing since long before the FDR's were raised from a watery grave. On that there is no real argument. My point is that without training (see what Tex keeps harping on) the habit pattern and scan patterns, and scan shifting patterns, can erode due to disuse. Or, in some cases, Are Never Established. (That appears to be what bubbers44 has such concerns about).
Lay on MacDuff, and all that.
