Whether the PF started to get control of the roll in the climb or not is neither here nor there - the point is that the pitch inputs were all wrong from beginning to end. As CONF iture likes to point out, I have no line experience at all - and yet I did not inadvertantly add roll input to my pitch control during the sequence (in fact I had to work hard to do so), despite trying to settle the roll with the ailerons during the climb.
It took the TRE shouting at me to control the roll with rudder post-stall to make me do so (sadly I forgot a lot of what I once knew), but even then we managed to recover.
Spinning is hard to induce in a swept-wing design - they tend to develop a spiral dive instead. Birgenair 301 *did* spin towards the end of the sequence, but the DFDR proved that was caused by an asymmetric engine compressor stall rather than flight control input.
Last edited by DozyWannabe; 18th Aug 2012 at 00:16.