Beagle, fully agree. Indeed, I don't think there has been any malice shown on here at all, just frustration that some of us who hold equivalence with most of the civilian aviation industry, are not getting any credit for it. Thats an issue and one that needs rectification IMHO. If we need to come up with a stronger evidence base for experienced QSPs there will be PLENTY of people willing to assist with the extensive staff work required (and has already been put in). There are a cynical few who feel this is being used as a gash attempt at retention, I can't believe that is possible. Please however give us the opportunity to demonstrate our equivalence,as many other European military aircrew are able to do.